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 sniglum
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 Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:58 am |
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Around a year ago I chose t-mobile over cingular, because I heard things about cingular's mediocre reception. Has the merge with AT&T wireless made a lot of difference? My plan is almost over and cingular has some really nice phones.
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 realboy2005
 Posts: 82
Phone Model: Motorola V3r (T-Mo), unlocked, flashed, flexed
Service Provider: Former AT&T Wireless |
 Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:31 am |
If I were you, I'd stay with t-mobile, cuz they use only 1900MHz towers and the sound quality is awesome; however, if you want the most reception, you should go to Cingular (it's got the allover network) and merging thing with AT&T Wireless brought those 64k sim cards that automatically switch between AT&T's and Cingular's networks depending on the reception of either one...
More than that, I'd stay with t-mobile just because Cingular feels itself number one in america and we (customers need to make both gsm (the best) companies equal!!! so they would give more benefits for their customers) T-Mobile needs another 30 million people....
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toowoomba
 Posts: 12
Phone Model: LG
Service Provider: Cingular |
 Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:16 am |
Just by looking at Cingular's coverage map after merging with AT&T and you can see a HUGE difference with T-Mobile. T-Mobile just can't compete with that.
1900 MHz and 850 MHz doesn't make a difference in sound quality.
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 realboy2005
 Posts: 82
Phone Model: Motorola V3r (T-Mo), unlocked, flashed, flexed
Service Provider: Former AT&T Wireless |
 Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:54 pm |
in places where signal are strong, the 1900 has a wider bandwidth which means it can handle more simultaneus calls than an 850.
Meaning you can fit more voice channels in 1900 MHz than 850 MHz. Like you could fit more people in big room than in a small room.
the FCC does not allow carriers to build out 800 or 850 anymore the only way they can have 800 or 850 is if they buy out or aquire a carrier with those licenses.
The FCC only allows carriers to build out 1900 (no exceptions)
other concerns???
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NDogg78
 Posts: 87
Phone Model: Motorola V600
Service Provider: Cingular |
 Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:57 pm |
it's always interesting to see people taking only a piece of information to make it fit their point of view.
read the discussion on this at wirelessadvisor here http://forums.wirelessadvisor.com/archive/index.php/t-1469.html
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 lester83
 Posts: 59
Phone Model: Motorola V551
Service Provider: Cingular |
 Tue Feb 01, 2005 2:58 am |
one thing to consider, especuially with the number protability act recently implimented, is that all cingular phones will take 850 and 1900, so they will always work with all of t-mobile's network if you end up wanting to do so; whereas none of t-mobile's phones (even the models that are for cingular too) have 850, so they will never work witht the entire cingular network. Therefore, its easier to take a cingular phone to t-mobile than the other way aound, not only due to the band issue, but also bc t-mobile will unlock phones for their customers (even ones from other companies) but cingular wont, and all t-mobile phones are locked but not all cingular ones are. (my samsung x427 i got in dec 2003 was locked, but my v551 that i just got in november wasnt)
as far as whether 850 or 1900 is better: i say if you really want to know... flip a coin and guess.
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hnyswtdl
 Posts: 26
Service Provider: blue and orange |
 Wed Feb 02, 2005 3:39 am |
Did you know that tmobile pays cingular to use their network?
Might as well be with cingular, you're going to be using their network anyways.
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JCMyersIV
 Posts: 122
Phone Model: V635 & BB 7290
Service Provider: Cingular |
 Wed Feb 02, 2005 9:26 am |
A couple clarifying points:
T-Mobile is a 1900 carrier (i.e., they don't own any 850 spectrum that I'm aware of), and almost all their phones don't support 850 (a couple like the blackberry 7100t do); they have the roaming agreements in place with some of the 850 carriers, and I've played around with their SIMs in 850 phones - they will get service in more areas than 1900 alone.
To the point about T-Mobile using Cingular's network, so choose Cingular anyway... Sounds like you're on the west coast; the opposite is True in NYC and other parts of the East Coast - Cingular had the equivalent of an airline code-share agreement so that both carriers could fill in their gaps and be national carriers. Now that Cingular bought AT&T, Cingular will be winding down the T-Mobile partnership (I think its supposed to be completed E-o-Y 2006). The interesting thing is that Cingular will still wind up with some of T-Mobile's spectrum in NYC, and Cingular is only divesting some of its West Coast spectrum...
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 lester83
 Posts: 59
Phone Model: Motorola V551
Service Provider: Cingular |
 Thu Feb 03, 2005 2:44 am |
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t-mobile does not operate (or borrow from cingular) a single tower that is 850 MHz. Their entire network is 100% 1900 MHz, and the only devices that they sell that support 850 are the sidekick II, and blackbeery 7100 (i think, check the website or call sales to double check). even phones are are the same as or very similar to phones from cingular (ie. mot v600) do not have 850, even if the cingular model does.
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 realboy2005
 Posts: 82
Phone Model: Motorola V3r (T-Mo), unlocked, flashed, flexed
Service Provider: Former AT&T Wireless |
 Sat Feb 05, 2005 2:07 pm |
I don't know where you get that information from (about v600, nokias (6800), etc) I know that nokia won't do any exceptions to make their phones for especially t-mobile or cingular... Nokia supports 850 and 1900 and some of them 1800 and 900...
Actually it's a little bit off topic ... all i started was about differences between 850 and 1900 with the full strengh of signal.....
1900 works better!!!
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