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dmitrih
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Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:28 pm 
I'm new to WAP/Mobile Web surfing...

If I were to purchase the "Mobile Web by VZW with MSN" feature, would I have access to any site on the internet using WAP protocol, or would I only have access to limited content provided by Verizon/MSN in partnership with msnbc,ESPN, etc.

This page seems to imply there's limited content:

http://vzw.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=mw_webinformation

Thanks in advance
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toowoomba
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Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:08 pm 
That's what it looks like. If you want to go to any website or URL, then I'd probably go with a "National Access Megabyte" plan. Looks like that doesn't care where you go and just charges by how much data you transfer.

The websites definitely make it confusing with their marketing mumbo jumbo.

To be sure, I'd really grill a customer rep about all the options included in whatever plan you use. Hopefully you'll get someone technically competent - but doesn't happen often
rick0204
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Tue Feb 15, 2005 11:04 am 
I recommend Mobile Web 2.0, but only the newer phones can use that feature. The older phones use Mobile Web and it is much more limited. Both Mobile Webs use lots of minutes and are very slow unless you are using the new 3G network.
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savedR
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Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:31 am 
I've used Mobile Web and Mobile Web 2.0 quite a bit. What happens with Moblie Web 1.0 is that you get text-based wap browsing. Every web page is pages of text that must be scrolled through. Links can be followed, and are sometimes numbered for shortcuts. Some more popular websites are more intelligent and will realize that you are visiting them from a phone and automatically send you a WAP page rather than an http one. Google is a great example of this.

You'd actually be amazed how much use you get out of this. I used to play an actual online RPG with Mobile Web 1.0, set in the Lord of the Rings universe. icon_biggrin.gif I'm sure you can picture exactly how this would work.. if you think of an HTML-only game.

The bulk and meat of almost every website is it's text. If you can find a 'clean' page, HTML-wise, you can view it even with Mobile Web 1.0.

Also, although it's not immediately apparent, you can go to any URL from Mobile Web 1.0. They even have an easy way to do this in the menus of it. Just don't expect it to work with every page.

Mobile Web 2.0 has many more features. It's very graphical, supporting pictures, full color links, backgrounds and text, and the like. Problem for me is that, again, you can go to any URL you like, but some websites that are intelligent enough to 'see' a Mobile Web 1.0/wap phone browsing and send it the appropriate page are not intelligent enough to see that your Mobile Web 2.0 phone is NOT a computer.. and will send you the whole, huge chunk of an http page, weird code, killer links and all.

(Oddly enough, I run into problems with Google. When I run a search for lyrics sites, for example, I get several results back from Google, which smartly shows five per page.. but I can't follow the link to the site! I have to go back to enter the URL myself, and it works fine. www.azlyrics.com is the most recent (apparently) non-WAP site I've tried that worked. www.plyrics.com (Punk Lyrics.com) is MUCH much cleaner-looking. It might be sending me a customized WAP page, because it looks great.)

Both of them use your regular airtime minutes rather than being charged per KB, as some providers do. This is actually a great thing, especially if you have a plan that includes unlimited nights and weekends: they don't draw a distinction between data minutes and phone calls, so this makes all your nighttime and weekend browsing completely free!

(I cell Cingular phones for a living right now. JUST TRY and find unlimited Mobile Web from Cingular; you'll spend $20 a month for it, minimum.)

So, in summation, if you're looking for an Internet appliance, the best you can do is get a smartphone or PDA with phone functionality. It is the only thing that comes closest to a PC in form and function. If you're looking for something else to do with your phone, enable Mobile Web. You'd be amazed which sites will actually load, especially with 2.0.

Also remember that not every phone is 2.0-compatible. My old Kyocera 2135 had 1.0, and my new LG VX7000 is of course 2.0.

I think we'll see more of this kind of thing in the future. I know that for sure if I'm out in public, I don't have a computer with me, I have my phone, and since I know my WAP browser can (theoretically, of course) go to any URL, I will try and visit the website right then and there on my phone every time. What other choice do I have, as most of the time I'm in my car and don't have a computer to use instead, or any great way to remember the website?

savedR
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Mon Mar 07, 2005 12:34 am 
Also, I'm pretty sure National Access Megabyte is for devices that are going to be running things like Pocket Internet Explorer or other applications, like Verizon CDMA cell-modem cards for laptops, PalmOS and MS Smartphones, and the like. That doesn't apply to Mobile Web 1.0/2.0, which is not charged per KB anyway.
vtext
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Thu Mar 10, 2005 5:35 pm 
I just resently purchase an lg vx 6100 and have mobile web 2.0. I love it. You can go onto practically any site with it and it's free on nights and weekends. I can't figure out how to save pictures that i searched for on yahoo and i was wondering if there is a way to flip the screen down on the phone and still talk to them on the speaker phone. Any answers would be appriciated
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