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Doc-in-House
Posts: 4
Service Provider:
Cingular |
 
Sun Jan 01, 2006 2:53 am |
| BigRUSS wrote: | | well if yall are useing more than 5k n&w you NEED to step up to a unlimited n&w plan ensted of bitching every month about a 500 dollar bill spend the extra 20 a month and get the higher plan, or heres a bright idea USE YOUR HOME PHONE, another thing it states in cingulars t&c is that cell phones are not intended for dayly usage business or emergencies |
Have you ever thought that your point will be more convincing if you can compose a message with a proper grammar and less spelling errors? If you are lacking that ability, I suggest to you not to post any inconsequetial commment.
By no means was my previous post asking any advice for prevention of exceeding limited minutes. Furthermore, where on earth did you come up with the proper usage of cell phone? Was it address on the contract that cell phone are not intended for daily usage, business or emergencies? I find reading your comment rather futile and absurd.
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elmo01
Posts: 2198
Phone Model:
Samsung SPH-M510
Service Provider:
Bell Canada |
Mon Jan 02, 2006 9:27 am |
| Doc-in-House wrote: |
Thank you for your bringing the definition of 'mobile to mobile minutes'. While you're defining the mobile to mobile minutes plan, you are not exactly answering to my previous post. Please re-read my post before you attempt to defend the conundrum of Cingular Ad. My point of post was directly converging on the enigmatic meaning of 'Unlimited Minute to Minute plan' which was printed in bold letters on their ad.
If you can research and come up with a well-defined term for 'Unlimited Minute to Minute', that will be alot more helpful than defining other terms of irrelevance.' |
Doc....
you original post refers to mobile to mobile from another post in this thread... you typed M2M a common reference to mobile to mobile....
all the cingular ads I have seen make direct reference to Mobile to Mobile... you are now saying Minute to Minute...that term means nothing to me...are you sure you read the ad right?
it sounds to me that you dont have the full grasp of the conversation...
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Doc-in-House
Posts: 4
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Mon Jan 02, 2006 1:04 pm |
| elmo01 wrote: | | Doc-in-House wrote: |
Thank you for your bringing the definition of 'mobile to mobile minutes'. While you're defining the mobile to mobile minutes plan, you are not exactly answering to my previous post. Please re-read my post before you attempt to defend the conundrum of Cingular Ad. My point of post was directly converging on the enigmatic meaning of 'Unlimited Minute to Minute plan' which was printed in bold letters on their ad.
If you can research and come up with a well-defined term for 'Unlimited Minute to Minute', that will be alot more helpful than defining other terms of irrelevance.' |
Doc....
you original post refers to mobile to mobile from another post in this thread... you typed M2M a common reference to mobile to mobile....
all the cingular ads I have seen make direct reference to Mobile to Mobile... you are now saying Minute to Minute...that term means nothing to me...are you sure you read the ad right?
it sounds to me that you dont have the full grasp of the conversation... |
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Enough with all these hidden meaning about unlimited m-2-m. Just go online and read under 'plan terms' which in NO way has defined clearly the term and definition for M-2-M unlimited feature, nor was it mentioned under its advertising brochure. Under the plan terms, it covered all issues in details specifically from minute increment billing and usage, pricing/txes/no proration (remember AT&T lost the lawsuit for mishandling the proration issues), Nights and weekends definition, Mobile to mobile minutes etc., but nothing was specifically addressed on m2m restriction, on the other hand, m2m was advertised with rest of other plans as UNLIMITED nationwide calling to over 50 million cingular customer!!
I don't care how you want to present the order of minutes usage on 1.n/w 2. m-2-m 3. day tme sequence, perhaps I dont have the intelligence to decipher the code that you expect general public to understand. All I know is I follow the plan and terms, following all the fonts on Cingular official website & official bronchure and no where did it mention about unlimited m-2-m is only limited to on-peak period. I have spoke to two Cingular Wireless agents, both of them were not aware of the Unlimited M-2-M was only restricted to on-peak. Furthermore, the Cingular salesrep was not aware of the restriction, not to the best of his knowledge. If there are restrcitions to m-2-m, then it shouldn't be called 'Unlimited', should it? why sell the gimmick? Perhaps they should address it more clearly on the advertisement and mention it on the Plan Terms. Remember block buster was sued for misleading their customers on their advertisement recently?
I'm a physician at University of Pennsylvania, and I'm two blocks away from my buddies at University of Pennsylvania Law School. Go ahead insult my intelligence all you want. I will bring this matter to a higher level of justice and for those people who felt have been misled by Cingular, like Chery, babysammi, etc. please contact me. Enough is enough
email me at ***edited no email addys please*** enable email in your profile
ps Since this might involve a legal issue, i suggest those people who trolls or who enjoys adding unproductive comment do not reply. because all you do is just adding your name to this case. I thank you for your coorperation.
To elmo
I just paste my original post word by word right on this message. Please read it VERY CAREFULLY, do you see that I was addressing at Unlimited M-2-M phrase, not M-2-M!!
It's perfectly fine that you have brought the exact term of M-2-M, but how do you define the word-'Unlimited'? Do you grasp my point? I am not asking you to explain 'M-2-M' to me, I'm asking you to provide a definition that explains the feature of 'UNLIMITED M-2-M'.
I believe I have address my point crystal and clear, and I beseech you to re-read my post or else this conversation will not need to persist.
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elmo01
Posts: 2198
Phone Model:
Samsung SPH-M510
Service Provider:
Bell Canada |
Mon Jan 02, 2006 3:34 pm |
ok... there is a specific draw down order for airtime minutes that the billing computer follows...
I'll show you how it works...
situation 1
you make a call at noon on a tuesday from your cingular phone to your house phone....you talk for 5 minutes... that 5 minutes of airtime is billed to your in plan (or peak) minutes...
situation 2
you make a call at noon on a tuesday from your cingular phone to another cingular customer... you are "on network" (your phone reads cingular on the screen)... the call bills to your mobile to mobile minutes
situation 3
you make a call at noon on a tuesday from your cingular phone to another cingular customer... you are "off network" (your phone reads "cingular extend" or another carrier on the screen)... the call bills to your peak minutes because you are not in the mobile to mobile calling
situation 4
you make a call after 9 pm but befor 6 am on a tuesday...from your cingular phone to another cingular customer... you are "on network" (your phone reads "cingular " on the screen)... the call bills to your unlimited night and weekend minutes because it is an off peak call
situation 5
you make a call after 9 pm but before 6 am on a tuesday from your cingular phone to another cingular customer... you are "off network" (your phone reads "cingular extend" or another carrier on the screen)... the call bills to your night and weekend calls as you are still in the off peak time
I have already given you the definition of Mobile to mobile... you sir cannot decide what YOU want to call them... minute to minute *or* mobile to mobile...
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BigRUSS
Posts: 2124
Phone Model:
two cans ( del monte) and some string,
Service Provider:
RussCo |
Mon Jan 02, 2006 4:33 pm |
| Doc-in-House wrote: | | BigRUSS wrote: | | well if yall are useing more than 5k n&w you NEED to step up to a unlimited n&w plan ensted of bitching every month about a 500 dollar bill spend the extra 20 a month and get the higher plan, or heres a bright idea USE YOUR HOME PHONE, another thing it states in cingulars t&c is that cell phones are not intended for dayly usage business or emergencies |
Have you ever thought that your point will be more convincing if you can compose a message with a proper grammar and less spelling errors? If you are lacking that ability, I suggest to you not to post any inconsequetial commment.
By no means was my previous post asking any advice for prevention of exceeding limited minutes. Furthermore, where on earth did you come up with the proper usage of cell phone? Was it address on the contract that cell phone are not intended for daily usage, business or emergencies? I find reading your comment rather futile and absurd. |
diredtly from cingulars t&c why not to be used for business
Cingular shall not be liable for any indirect, special, punitive,
incidental or consequential losses or damages you or any third party may suffer by use
of, or inability to use, service or Equipment provided by or through Cingular, including
loss of business or goodwill, revenue or profits, or claims of personal injuries.
daily use and emergencies
WE DO NOT GUARANTEE YOU UNINTERRUPTED
SERVICE OR COVERAGE. WE CANNOT ASSURE YOU THAT IF YOU PLACE
A 911 CALL YOU WILL BE FOUND. Airtime and other service charges apply to all calls,
including involuntarily terminated calls. CINGULAR MAKES NO WARRANTY, EXPRESS
OR IMPLIED, OF MERCHANTABILITY OR FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE,
SUITABILITY, OR PERFORMANCE REGARDING ANY SERVICES OR GOODS, AND
IN NO EVENT SHALL CINGULAR BE LIABLE, WHETHER OR NOT DUE TO ITS OWN
NEGLIGENCE, for any: (a) act or omission of a third party; (b) mistakes, omissions,
interruptions, errors, failures to transmit, delays or defects in the service provided
by or through us; (c) damage or injury caused by the use of service or Equipment,
including use in a vehicle; (d) claim against you by third parties; (e) damage or injury
caused by a suspension or termination of service by Cingular; or (f) damage or injury
caused by failure or delay in connecting a call to 911 or any other emergency service.
We may bill you in a format as we determine from time to time.
and thats directly from cing t&c
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steva11
Posts: 1682
Phone Model:
w810i/pearl
Service Provider:
Rogers |
Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:39 pm |
PLAN TERMS
| Quote: | | Minutes will be depleted according to usage in the following order: Night and Weekend Minutes, Mobile to Mobile Minutes, Anytime Minutes and Rollover Minutes. |
This is written in the area of the deposit and early termination information where the terms are explained and seperated by state groups.
Mobile to Mobile Minutes are Unlimited. Since Night and Weekend Minutes are used in their respective timeframe, the user is using Nights and Weekend Minutes, not Mobile to Mobile minutes.
I know it's a little misleading, but that is why they have the fine print, and all the information is provided for your knowledge.
I don't understand what the argument is.
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Cptech31
Posts: 604
Phone Model:
LG
Service Provider:
Hmm what service |
Sat Jan 07, 2006 4:00 pm |
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here is how the Mobile to mobile mins work durning the night during the 9pm -6am night usage times mobile to mobile calls. Any calls made during the night and weekends times will be counted as a night and weekend call, Unless you exceed the included min's in the plan. If you exceed the included night and weekend min's then mobile to mobile will go back into effect till end of bill cycle. Now if you plan included unlimited Night and weekends min's you don't have to worrie about Mobile to mobile calls as all calls during that time is free calling
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elmo01
Posts: 2198
Phone Model:
Samsung SPH-M510
Service Provider:
Bell Canada |
Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:00 am |
| Cptech31 wrote: | | here is how the Mobile to mobile mins work durning the night during the 9pm -6am night usage times mobile to mobile calls. Any calls made during the night and weekends times will be counted as a night and weekend call, Unless you exceed the included min's in the plan. If you exceed the included night and weekend min's then mobile to mobile will go back into effect till end of bill cycle. Now if you plan included unlimited Night and weekends min's you don't have to worrie about Mobile to mobile calls as all calls during that time is free calling |
been over that explanation several times... OP is on 39.99 and wont crack the wallet for 49.99 to get the unl OP air... his choice
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Cptech31
Posts: 604
Phone Model:
LG
Service Provider:
Hmm what service |
Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:22 am |
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These Crazy like spending 10.00 more a month is going to kill them and that 10.00 more a month may save them 30 to 40 a month in add min charges
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elmo01
Posts: 2198
Phone Model:
Samsung SPH-M510
Service Provider:
Bell Canada |
Sun Jan 08, 2006 9:42 am |
| Cptech31 wrote: | | These Crazy like spending 10.00 more a month is going to kill them and that 10.00 more a month may save them 30 to 40 a month in add min charges |
I hear ya... I deal with it on a daily basis...
the answers to most billing questions are readily available at the site... the odd one does need a "translation" (not many) but the draw down order for MtM is quite readable... some people just dont know how to deal with the "non-desired response"...
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