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x3x
Posts: 13
Phone Model:
Nokia 6315i
Service Provider:
Verizon |
 
Sun Jun 12, 2005 12:54 am |
Hi all !
Actualy, i´m having problems with a guy here. The thing is that this guy uses different phone numbers to call some aquience of mine and to send her sms. It really is a lot of different random phone numbers, and she knows that he uses a cloned cell phone, and that he have this hability to change betwen one number and another one in question of one or two minutes.
Once the guy called her, and I called back to the same number... a old man picked up the phone with no idea what was going on. I never told the old man about cloning stuff and that stuff.
My question is about the clone stuff here. Not that i´m interested in this crap, but I was just wondering how do this sonofab*** can change to a number to another is a short time like this?
To clone a number, is necessary to use some kind of device to plug the cell in or is just a matter of codding in the device?
I know that he clones numbers from one of our carriers here, that uses CDMA technology, and possibly old numbers that uses TDMA also.
Can someone give me some kind of logical explanation about cloning stuff and tecniques?
Repeating, I´m not interrested myself into this shi*... I´m not risking my neck for this, is just a question of curiosity.
Anyways... thanx since now.
(Sorry about the English)
/x3x
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veilfore89
Posts: 1396
Phone Model:
Motorola Q9h(GSM), V551(GSM), T720i(GSM), T720g(GSM)(DEAD
), T730(CDMA), Samsung x427m(GSM), Siemens A56i(GSM), E-815(CDMA)
Service Provider:
AT&T Wireless |
Sun Jun 12, 2005 1:56 am |
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Last time I checked this wasn't possible without a device that could manipulate the SIM or in this case of the CDMA the phones whatever it is they use instead of SIM thats built into the phone, whatever it is its a big league toy, lol but as you said, hes risking his neck for it. See for yourself theres a whole article on it, dirty snakes should get what they deserve if caught. http://infotech.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1113824,prtpage-1.cms
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Samsung
Posts: 3141
Phone Model:
Motorola RAZR2 V8 |
Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:01 am |
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Sim copying is possible but the only way im aware of how to do it requires the original sim card present.
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veilfore89
Posts: 1396
Phone Model:
Motorola Q9h(GSM), V551(GSM), T720i(GSM), T720g(GSM)(DEAD
), T730(CDMA), Samsung x427m(GSM), Siemens A56i(GSM), E-815(CDMA)
Service Provider:
AT&T Wireless |
Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:05 am |
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Not entirely, read the article, all it takes is an account number and the right smarts, paired thats a deadly combo...that kinda things annoying..
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Old_Fool
Posts: 2118
Phone Model:
If it's locked, ican unlock it. If you brick it, I can fix it
Service Provider:
Tmobile |
Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:53 am |
| xXxSamsungxXx wrote: | | Sim copying is possible but the only way im aware of how to do it requires the original sim card present. |
IEMI# that what one need to clone
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veilfore89
Posts: 1396
Phone Model:
Motorola Q9h(GSM), V551(GSM), T720i(GSM), T720g(GSM)(DEAD
), T730(CDMA), Samsung x427m(GSM), Siemens A56i(GSM), E-815(CDMA)
Service Provider:
AT&T Wireless |
Sun Jun 12, 2005 2:56 am |
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Well, he means just cloning the number, in general, identity theft only the identity is ones phone number, not the phone or anything, unless in CDMA they program everything through IMEI# then Old_Fools hit it on the button.
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Samsung
Posts: 3141
Phone Model:
Motorola RAZR2 V8 |
Sun Jun 12, 2005 6:10 pm |
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What I was referring to was cloning someones sim card, there is actually a device you can by to copy a used sim card to a new one for backup purposes, however yes im sure if we are talking CDMA/TDMA all you need is the IMEI because there are no sim cards. However I not sure how you would clone the ESN (Electronic Serial Number).
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veilfore89
Posts: 1396
Phone Model:
Motorola Q9h(GSM), V551(GSM), T720i(GSM), T720g(GSM)(DEAD
), T730(CDMA), Samsung x427m(GSM), Siemens A56i(GSM), E-815(CDMA)
Service Provider:
AT&T Wireless |
Sun Jun 12, 2005 7:50 pm |
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Yup, thats why you gotta love technology, although you may not know how to do something, doesn't mean it can't be done...Haha, thats what keeps it fun I guess...
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mabashab
Posts: 2 |
Tue Jun 21, 2005 3:13 am |
Hi,
You assumptions were right.
It is a classic case of CDMA cloning.
Cloning CDMA obile phone is so easy. just check the following link:
http://www.-editted-.com
Ther are so many victims of cloning and theu don't even know it.
The mobile carriers will allways deny having a cloning problem because it will damage them and many customers will switch to other carriers.
The cloning issue is a global problem. It happens in other countries that use CDMA technology.
I Think it is a foundemental problem, probably from QUALCOMM.
Ali
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jdwme
Posts: 136
Phone Model:
Sold my v600...but...GO
T A V635! YEAH BABY!
Service Provider:
T-Mobile |
Tue Jun 21, 2005 11:45 am |
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cdma phones do not have an imei, they use only an esn which has fewer digits than an imei, that's why cdma carriers are about to have a "y2k" similar problem. Cloning was easy on the old analog system as you could take parts your found at your local radioshak andbuild a device that would capture the phones "unique" signature and program it onto antoher phone. digital cloning is a little more dificult. Most likely the guy is doing it from a phone hooked up to a computer and a device that allows him to scan for esn's or he has a random esn generator on his computer. Are all the numbers from your area?
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