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Dose
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Nokia 3650

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Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:56 pm 
Hi, Im debating if I should get this phone or not. A few questions first... As I understand the phone comes standard with a MMC card, what can be transfered via this card like ringtones, background pictuers, games, pictures? Or is bluetooth the only way... (I have a MMC card reader on my PC) I was also wondering about using midi files for ringtones, can any midi file be loaded as a ringtone or is there some sort of conversion software. Thanks for the answers and help in advance. Cheers.
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johnnyspliff
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nokia 3650

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Tue Sep 02, 2003 6:49 pm 
God I love telling people about this phone. It has so many features. Here's a rundown on all the questions you might have. IF this does not convince you to buy it, nothing will.

These are all extracts from other posts that I have made.

" have had one major problem with it which made me get a replacement phone, but it was kinda my fault.
I have customised it exactly the way I want.
With my 128Mb mmc, I have over 50 songs, 10 music videos and a shedload of apps and games.
The bluetooth option is handy for connecting to another phone/pc (if you have an adaptor)

I have had no problems with the signal so far. I live in Ireland, and have had signal problems with other phones, but I have not lost signal yet!

The battery lasts me a day if I am constantly using it to play games, run apps etc.) This is only with heavy use though.

Normally it will last me 2 days, and that's making and recieving a few phone calls, listening to some music, etyc.) Just regular use. (I think the talk time is around 4 hours)

The camera is good enough for a smart phone, although there is no optical zoom. There is a program that you can get that gives you 10x digital zoom, which is good enough to use for double or whatever.

The video recorder is ok, although you can only record up to 10 seconds if you get the sound add on. There is a program however, to let you record as long as you want."

"there are programs available that allow you to view Microsoft Office Documents on your phone and the options of infra red, bluetooth and modem are great for business people with a laptop. "

"There is no OPTICAL Zoom, however there is DIGITAL zoom. The forthcoming Nokia 6600 has an optical lense which will allow 2x zoom with pictures and video.

But that's a while off yet. If you can hold out, I'd buy the 6600, but if you have to buy a phone right now, then the 3650 is the way to go. I know it's big, and the keypad takes a bit 0of getting used to, but it has so many features, you won't regret buying it.

There is a program called Camera FX which you can get for your phone, which allows zoom up to 10x. However this is digital zoom. It basically only enlarges a portion of the picture you want to take. However the more you zoom in, the more blockier and blurier the picture will get. I find it useful on 2x or even 4x (in the right conditions).

If you decide to buy it, take my advice and buy a 128mb mmc card with it. DO NOT BUY AN SD (SECURE DIGITAL) CARD! THEY WILL NOT WORK! ONLY BUY AN MMC CARD UP TO 128MB IN SIZE! Higher spec cards might work, they might not work. They are not officially supported. I've seen some that work fine and only give a couple of problems. I've seen some that won't work at all and one that messed upo my friends phone.

Other reasons toi buy a 3650:

Games:

DOOM (the original pc classic!)
GoBoy (A game boy color emulator)
MGS (Required to play MGS games. Some like Cobra Attack are excellent with great graphics.)
Frodo (A Comodore 64 emulator)
fMSX/S60 (An MSX emulator)
Prince of Persia (the original)
M.A.M.E. (coming soon. Play all the old arcade classics on your phone)

Applications:

CameraFx (the program I mentioned earlier)
Polyphonic ringtone Composer (built into the phone)
MP3Go (An mp3 player)
Phone Secure (If your phone gets stolen, just send a specific user set text message to the phone, and the phone will become locked. An alarm will sound. If the person changes sim cards, then the sim card number is sent to another phone of your choice. Great security tool!)

Opera (View internet pages on your phone. I mean HTML, not stupid WAP sites. And you can use your pc's internet connection via bluetooth, so your phone won't be charged.)

Total IRRemote (A remote control for your phone. Control almost every infra red device - tvs, hi fis, videos, dvd players. IF your device is not listed, you can program it)

ReadM (an e-book reader. Download books off the net and copy them to your phone to be read. Contains scrolling pages options and backlight always on feature)

MiniGPS (reads your currewnt cell location, so events can be programmed to happen when the cell changes to the one set by you. For example, you could set your phone to automatically turn on silent when you enter work, or to turn off when you enter church)


Then there's the options for bluetooth and infra red for connecting your phone to other devices.

There's a modem option so you can use your phone as a wireless modem for a computer or laptop.

Then there's video. The video recorder isn't great - yoiu're limited to time and sound. IF you want sound, you need to upgrade the camcorder with a patch off nokia's website. There's a program called ETI Camcorder whioch allows sound, AND recording as much video as your memory card can hold!

I have 6 full 7 full music video on my phone, 6 family guy clips, and 10 others. RealOne player does not play full screen, but PvPlayer (which you can download does). It was great watching Terminator 3 on my phone in full screen (phone turned on it's side). It took up 80 Mb of my memory card for good quality, but it was worth it. I had to delete it because I put music on it.

Sound:

I have over 50 full length songs on my phone. The quality is good and the files aren't really big (1-2 mb)
They play fine on the phone's internal loudspeaker.
If you want mp3's, they're gonna take up space (3-6 mb) and the quality isn't that much better.

The 3650 is a great phone if you have the ability to expand it.

If you buy a 128Mb mmc card, then an mmc card reader for your pc is not a bad idea (they're fairly cheap)
If you want to use bluetooth, you will need a bluetooth adaptor for your pc.
If you use bluetooth or infra red, then music and video will automatically be converted when copied to your phone. But if you copy large files, this can take hours.And if your connection is lost, then you have to start over.

An mmc card reader is the way to go. It allows fast transfer of files and is more user friendly (bluetooth is a pain to set up)
IF you want music on your phone via a mmc card reader, then a program such as Sound Forge or Cool Edit helps.
And if you are interested in video via a mmc card reader, then a program such as Nokia Multimedia Converter helps."

"The speaker phone is fine, even when listening to songs. I find that when the volume is very high on the speaker phone, songs will become slightly distorted. All I have to do is lower the volume. But that's only on certain songs, ant the speaker is loud enough(loud enough that a person down the street could hear songs)

As for games, apps, music and video, I got most of mine from yahoo groups. As for video and audio, you don't need any programs for your phone, but you do need some for your pc.

"As I said, the 3650 is a great phone, but to get maximum use of it you really need a 128Mb mmc card (not SD-secure digital) and some means of connection. Cards are less than $45 off amazon.com. In my opinion an mmc card reader is the best way to go. They are less than $15 dollars on amazon.com, and even cheaper off Ebay. Of course, a card reader is only useful if you have a file manager program on your phone. How are you going to get that program on your phone? If you can afford it, buy a bluetooth adaptor (again - less than $30 on amazon.com or again, cheaper on Ebay). If you can't, find a friend that has one or an infra red port on his pc or laptop and copy it to your phone using that. Then you can use this app to browse to files that you have copied with your card reader and install them there.
Seriously, consider getting both.
A card reader for file transfer.
Bluetooth for using your pc's internet connection via bluetooth on your phone, so you can visit any website (HTML pages!) and chat via IRC using another small program. It's also handy for copying a file now and again, when you don't want to take your phone apart. "

"One of the great things that the 3650 has over it's brother the 7650 is MMC support. MMC being MultiMedia Card. This single feature makes it possible to really expand your phone.

An mmc is used widely for lots of devices, such as digital cameras, smart phones, etc.) It's a small card (about the size of a postage stamp) that you insert like a sim card (under the battery) into your phone. It increases the space available to you for storing stuff.

The 7650 had a 4Mb Internal Memory built into it. Users had to make do with this meaning there was not much room to store stuff on your phone. The game DOOM takes up nearly 2Mb alone! So people were constantly deleting stuff and rearranging stuff on their phone to use other programs.

The 3650 however, has a 4Mb Internal Memory and support for MMC. There is a 16Mb card supplied with the phone, which will suffice starting out. But really, there are so many programs and games out there, you will need a larger memory card.
If you are using your phone for video and music purposes, then you will need to get one as soon as possible. I mean Termiantor 3, as I mentioned earlier, took up over 80Mb on my memory card! I have over 50 songs on my phone (taking up around 80Mb), some music videos and other videos, and an absolutely shed load of games and applications. My 128Mb card is nearly full as it is (I only have around 2Mb left!)

Nokia only officially supports cards up to size of 128Mb. There are cards out there in 256Mb and 512Mb sizes, but they might not work with your phone and may cause problems. Buy a 128Mb and you're nearly guaranteed it will work."

"Originally Posted by marson_wolves
oh by the way will i still need infrared or bluetooth connection aswell as a mmc card reader so it recognises the fone
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Not necessarily, but it helps. There's a problem with only using a mmc card reader for copying files across. It is fine if you are copying games and apps. Just copy them (java games included) into a folder on the card and then use a file explorer such as SeleQ or FExplorer to browse to the files and install them. Getting the file explorer onto your phone is the problem. How are you going to install the file? There is a program you can get that the file will automatically install on startup. It's on my group
groups.yahoo.com/group/johnnyspliff
The file is appinst60.app. Once you have copied it over, you can either insert the memory card again and boot the phone up so it will create the directory. But I just created the folder "pre-loaded". I then created a sub folder called "SYMBIAN". I copied the file explorer program to this folder. I then turned on my phone and clicked the icon in my menu.

IF you are copying video ar music, then it will need to be converted on your pc first.
For video, you need Helix Producer (download off Kazaa) or Nokia Multimedia Converter (download from www.forum.nokia.com). These will both convert the movie to .3gp format. This will do the same thing for music (it will convert it to .amr), but the sound quality is shite.

You're best off downloading cool edit or sound forge and resampling the song to 16,000, 8 bit and to mono. Then save it as an acm waveform and under options, change the type to GSm 6.10. This will give you a small file and excellent sound quality.

If you use bluetooth, the files will automatically be converted but the copying will take hours.

I have both bluetooth and a mmc card reader and use the mmc card reader more often. Granted bluetooth is useful for installing games and apps if you don't want to have to take your phone apart, but it is faster with mmc card reader. The only other time I use bluetooth is to use a program such as Wireless IRC or Opera to use my pcs internet connection via bluetooth on my phone.


Oh and a full movie take about 20 - 25 mins to convert to .3gp.(for me anyway)"

johnnyspliff
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Tue Sep 02, 2003 6:50 pm 
holy fudgemonkeys, thats a long post.

mingkee
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Nokia 6270

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Wataniya
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Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:14 pm 
this is really addictive
but I just wonder that is it possible to get stereo from internal realplayer and mp3 player

johnnyspliff
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Wed Sep 03, 2003 6:44 pm 
I don't really understand your question, but for starters, the 3650 is not stereo. It is mono (one channel), whereas if it were stereo, it would have to speakers (left and right). The 3300 music phone has stereo sound.
Even still, the sound quality is decent enough through the loud speaker.
realone player does not play songs, only videos (with sound). There is no mp3 player on the phone as standard, you must copy it over.

Bjoern
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Nokia E61

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Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:07 pm 
johnnyspliff wrote:
I don't really understand your question, but for starters, the 3650 is not stereo. It is mono (one channel), whereas if it were stereo, it would have to speakers (left and right). The 3300 music phone has stereo sound.
Even still, the sound quality is decent enough through the loud speaker.
realone player does not play songs, only videos (with sound). There is no mp3 player on the phone as standard, you must copy it over.


1. The 3650 is stereo over the headphones (like most newer Nokia phones) --> Stereo sound is possible, but only over the stereo headphones.

2. No Nokia phone has stereo speakers (so far now)

mingkee
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Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:39 pm 
johnnyspliff wrote:
I don't really understand your question, but for starters, the 3650 is not stereo. It is mono (one channel), whereas if it were stereo, it would have to speakers (left and right). The 3300 music phone has stereo sound.
Even still, the sound quality is decent enough through the loud speaker.
realone player does not play songs, only videos (with sound). There is no mp3 player on the phone as standard, you must copy it over.

I checked at real.com, that realplayer built-in can play internet radio (.ra) from my hometown
since the radio is in stereo format, that I am wondering
and you can make music files in .ra or .rm fromat, just wonder stereo playback from realplayer is possible, if so, I'll upgrade the phone from moto T722i (though T722i is good too)
noall666
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nokia 3650

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at&t
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 2:56 pm 
ok so hears a questions then, i understand it cant be stereo throught the one speaker, but i have just purchased a stereo ear piece and have realized it is not stereo, i just took it apart and found out that the 4 contact mini plug, ( it has 4 different connections on it) 2 is for the microphone, 2 is for the speaker, that means its only mono, please explain how the hell i can get stereo outta that. i can only guess, that i may need onather connector, but then again i cant get just a headset for the phone, they dont make one, they only sell them with a stupid mic, i just want to play my mp3's on it, any help or questions from me i will help and love the help. thanks
later
mike





Bjoern wrote:
johnnyspliff wrote:
I don't really understand your question, but for starters, the 3650 is not stereo. It is mono (one channel), whereas if it were stereo, it would have to speakers (left and right). The 3300 music phone has stereo sound.
Even still, the sound quality is decent enough through the loud speaker.
realone player does not play songs, only videos (with sound). There is no mp3 player on the phone as standard, you must copy it over.


1. The 3650 is stereo over the headphones (like most newer Nokia phones) --> Stereo sound is possible, but only over the stereo headphones.

2. No Nokia phone has stereo speakers (so far now)

Bjoern
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Wed Jan 05, 2005 5:04 pm 
That's a real old post icon_biggrin.gif

I was a bit miss-informed that time about the phone. It is definitivly mono. No way of stereo.

Sorry.
K3V
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Sun Apr 09, 2006 9:23 am 
I have a quick question, is there any way to disable the phone's internal speaker when listening to MP3's? I want the sound to just come through my headset when listening to music, I've tried both Ultra MP3 and MP3go and they both do the same thing.
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