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burro
Posts: 7
Phone Model:
V551 Motorola
Service Provider:
Cingular |
 
Thu Nov 03, 2005 2:04 pm |
Hi, I am the 2-day-old proud owner of a V551.
I am also a Mac user. I use a OS-supplied program called "Blue Tooth File Exchange" to transfer files to BT devices. Works great.
Have transferred simple ".mid" files successfully to the V551, assigned them as ringtones on the phone and had it work great.
But I **really** want to start using mp3 ring-tones. More importantly, the darling mother of my 4.5 month-old baby girl -- who also just got a V551 -- wants to start using mp3 ringtones!! 
Mac has TONNES of programs that do what Audacity does (only better, of course) -- I like Amadeus best these days, but I've used LOTS of them.
I've taken snippets of some fun songs (Bowie's "Young Americans", The Theme to "The Avengers" TV Show, Hammer's "You Can't Touch This") and whittled them down to under 30 seconds with bit-rates of 32-64. File sizes range from 8k to 400k. I experiemented mostly with one of the small ones.
BUT HERE'S THE DEAL
When I transfer my mp3 snippets to the phone, Blue Tooth File Exchange initiates the transfer, I say "Accept" on the phone, and the file transfer begins (all the same as with the successful midi file transfers).
I watch the transfer take place. The entire file transfers... and then...
A message appears on the phone: "File Type Not Recognized." I am forced to acknowledge and the phone then appears to DELETE the file I have just transferred!
Since BT is standardized, I doubt it matters that I am on a Mac. (So let's leave our prejudices out of this  -- it just means I cannot use MobilePhoneTools unless I do it in my WindowsXP under VirtualPC, an option but not my first choice).
What I suspect is that the message is accurate -- that there is a special file/creator type that the V551 will recognize. But that's just *my* guess...
Anyone have any thoughts on this? PLEEASE?
Many TIA,
~Louie.
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netkent
Posts: 96
Phone Model:
Motorola V551
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Thu Nov 03, 2005 9:31 pm |
For MP3 ringtones on the motorola phones, I believe you have to use Mobile Phone Tools to get them to transfer correctly and tagged as a "ring tone" for motorola. Unfortunately I don't think think MPT is available for Mac.
Hopefully someone else can provide another alternative for you. Just in case, you may want to find a safe hiding place from momma
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burro
Posts: 7
Phone Model:
V551 Motorola
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Tue Nov 08, 2005 6:59 pm |
| netkent wrote: | | For MP3 ringtones on the motorola phones, I believe you have to use Mobile Phone Tools to get them to transfer correctly and tagged as a "ring tone" for motorola. Unfortunately I don't think think MPT is available for Mac. |
Yes -- MPT is not available for MacOS. I could try it with Virtual PC, but that's slow and I am not sure whether I could transfer directly from that environment using BlueTooth, or whether I'd have to transfer via the MacOS, possibly picking up whatever file attribute is causing the problem.
I've posted a follow-up to this thread at
http://forums.mobiledia.com/topic39396.html
There I describe how a OS X (v10.3+) Mac user can transfer any file to the V551.
| netkent wrote: | | Hopefully someone else can provide another alternative for you. Just in case, you may want to find a safe hiding place from momma |
I am afraid you don't know my "little sweetie" -- once you hide you better never be found!
Thanks, amigo!
~Louie.
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mattdez
Posts: 3
Phone Model:
Samsung SGH-d807
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Tue Nov 08, 2005 9:06 pm |
I'm having the same problem and I think it may be with the software we use to edit the MP3's... here's my reasoning. About 4 months ago I downloaded a short MP3 clip of Special Ed to use as my sound when I have voicemail. I just downloaded the file and bluetoothed it over and it works perfectly.
Now I am having the same problem as you. I am trying to make custom ringtones and I keep getting the "file corrupt message" I have tried everything possible to get the files to work but no luck yet.
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veilfore89
Posts: 1396
Phone Model:
Motorola Q9h(GSM), V551(GSM), T720i(GSM), T720g(GSM)(DEAD
), T730(CDMA), Samsung x427m(GSM), Siemens A56i(GSM), E-815(CDMA)
Service Provider:
AT&T Wireless |
Wed Nov 09, 2005 2:49 am |
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Double check--Most softwares you guys are using do not carry in them the LAME MP3 plug in, which means, you may be trying to put .wav or manually changed .mp3's onto it. Also you may have some problems using P2kprograms over MPT with ringtones. You get a screwed up Ringer Profile menu when setting the ringtone if you use P2kprograms.
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netkent
Posts: 96
Phone Model:
Motorola V551
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Thu Nov 10, 2005 12:18 am |
| veilfore89 wrote: | | Double check--Most softwares you guys are using do not carry in them the LAME MP3 plug in, which means, you may be trying to put .wav or manually changed .mp3's onto it. Also you may have some problems using P2kprograms over MPT with ringtones. You get a screwed up Ringer Profile menu when setting the ringtone if you use P2kprograms. |
Yep. Personally I like Audacity. Just remember to load the LAME plug in as veilfore89 says.
I guess we can now officially start greatly extending this thread by arguing over what is better than Audacity, again 
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burro
Posts: 7
Phone Model:
V551 Motorola
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:29 pm |
| mattdez wrote: | I'm having the same problem and I think it may be with the software we use to edit the MP3's... here's my reasoning. About 4 months ago I downloaded a short MP3 clip of Special Ed to use as my sound when I have voicemail. I just downloaded the file and bluetoothed it over and it works perfectly.
Now I am having the same problem as you. I am trying to make custom ringtones and I keep getting the "file corrupt message" I have tried everything possible to get the files to work but no luck yet. |
Hi MatDez,
Let's get together on this!
Would you be able to send (email) a copy of the ringtone that worked??
From there I would be able to really look at the file and try to see what the difference is!! (And share my results with you and others if successful.)
Lou(_a.t_)primavoce(_d.o.t_)org
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burro
Posts: 7
Phone Model:
V551 Motorola
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Mon Nov 14, 2005 3:34 pm |
| veilfore89 wrote: | | Double check--Most softwares you guys are using do not carry in them the LAME MP3 plug in, which means, you may be trying to put .wav or manually changed .mp3's onto it. Also you may have some problems using P2kprograms over MPT with ringtones. You get a screwed up Ringer Profile menu when setting the ringtone if you use P2kprograms. |
Thanks for the info Veilfore89...
Many of the Mac sound editors *do* use the latest (or earlier) LAME encoders...
BTW: I used Virtual PC to run the latest copy of Audacity and export my file... usual settings 11KHz, 64bps, under 30 seconds, mp3, vbr0... no luck...
I had to bring the file back into the Mac environment before transferring, as VPC did not have a BlueTooth passthrough that I could get working... I'll have to wait until I get a USB cable before trying to transfer directly to phone with MPT...
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veilfore89
Posts: 1396
Phone Model:
Motorola Q9h(GSM), V551(GSM), T720i(GSM), T720g(GSM)(DEAD
), T730(CDMA), Samsung x427m(GSM), Siemens A56i(GSM), E-815(CDMA)
Service Provider:
AT&T Wireless |
Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:14 pm |
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Ok, your setup sounds ready, and I do believe its better to use USB, although the BT should work fine, try again to use MPT to send the files to the phone through BT, and re-encode the original song at 44100 Hz sample rate, 96kbps bitrate, mono channel, and VBR you may set at whatever you desire 0-9. Keep the clip to 30 seconds or less, then pair the phone, open MPT and transfer.
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burro
Posts: 7
Phone Model:
V551 Motorola
Service Provider:
Cingular |
Mon Nov 14, 2005 4:32 pm |
| veilfore89 wrote: | | Ok, your setup sounds ready, and I do believe its better to use USB, although the BT should work fine, try again to use MPT to send the files to the phone through BT, and re-encode the original song at 44100 Hz sample rate, 96kbps bitrate, mono channel, and VBR you may set at whatever you desire 0-9. Keep the clip to 30 seconds or less, then pair the phone, open MPT and transfer. |
Really -- 44KHz instead of 11KHz and 96kbps instead of 64kbps??
Thanks -- I'll try this and post the results as soon as I find that blasted cable.
(Virtual PC supports USB devices but does not have reliable support for BlueTooth passthrough, as far as I can tell, so I must use the cable.)
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