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 peryus88
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 Fri May 19, 2006 6:09 pm |
Bored, so I was reading FOX sports online and I came across an article about a Houston pitcher being suspended for throwing several times at Barry Bonds during a ballgame.
I'm always up to play sports but don't delve into statistics, because there is just too much . Also I think some of them are just ridiculous. Anyway, I guess everyone knows that he is 1 homer from matching Babe Ruth's homerun record. I think that this is unfair. Babe Ruth's name is somewhat synymous to baseball. Just like Jordan is to basketball. And the thought of Bonds breaking Ruth's record is a joke. Even if there is no evidence, it's so obvious that he has done steroids...just look how big the guy is, he's one big walking muscle. At least Ruth did it with hotdogs and beer. He didn't need anything else.
If he does break Ruth's record, I can't stop him. But in the event that he does, an asterisk next to his name is not good enough. In my opinion, I think every pitcher should walk Bonds. Because it is a shame to the other pro athletes who made their way by working hard.
It's just as bad as when those ball players went in front of Congress and they were asking Mark McGwire about steroid use.
Congress - Have you ever done steroids
McGwire - I plead the 5th Amendment
Whatever man, that's just the same thing as saying yes.
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 TipiCrawler
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 Sat May 20, 2006 10:58 am |
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yeah but everytime someone with asthma uses an inhaler they are doing steroids.....or get botox injections.the pressures those athletes are under is staggering......I think the true shame is..that we as a country train our men and women that they must excell in everything ....and as far as perfect bodies and perfect performance goes.....the person you are inside should ALWAYS be the determining factor for the content of ones character....
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 Jadall
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 Sat May 20, 2006 7:17 pm |
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Why not make sports exciting have all the players in sports who choose to enhance themselves since they do it anyways.? wouldn't you love to watch roided baseball?? guys hitting the ball like 1 mile. under a doctor's supervison this enhancement even tho bad for it isn't as historically bad for you as it used to be.. (no kids don't just pickup steriods and just use them go to a sports type doctor they get you all hooked up relativly safe)
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 steva11
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 Sat May 20, 2006 7:37 pm |
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i'm sure many of the ball players use steriods. there's not even one bodybuilder in the IFBB who doesn't. eventhough they use steriods, it still takes a huge amount of dedication/hardwork/talent/genetics to beable to achieve outstanding results. but it's hard to say whether bonds should be compared to ruth. I mean, nutrition and nutritional supplementation has come light years since ruth's time. that alone would also give players a huge advantage.
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 peryus88
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 Sun May 21, 2006 4:49 am |
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It'd be exciting at first to watch "juiced up" players all hitting homers. But afterwards, it would become boring and the only thing that people would want to see in the highlights are the players' blunders. But nowadays people are looking for the quick fix. I'll agree that working out/bodybuilding has come a long way, with new programs & nutrition making it more easier and faster to get results. Yet some (not all) nutritional supplements are contaminated with chemicals that are not listed on the label and which are untested regarding their safety to health...some containing anabolic steroids. Athletes get away with this because some supplements are not FDA-approved. So when it comes "testing time", and the results come back positive for steroid use, they can just say that they did not know that and that they originally got it from their trainer. It gets disconcerting because some of these athletes--even they won't own up to it--are role models to younger people who want to try and succeed in a certain sport. And I don't think that is the right message you want to give to the youths of today: "Don't do drugs, now I have to get juiced up". **It's not juice, it's a protein shake!**
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 steva11
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 Sun May 21, 2006 1:49 pm |
but there are many reputable companies like EAS, prolab, muscletech. that are FDA-approved and contain real research behind them. when athletes are getting stuff from grey-market companies, they know they what they are taking, and squibb labs that was in the news is a steriod manufacturing company. when they say that they didn't know, it makes them look stupid.
but the FDA is a little too harsh, i believe. take ephedrine for example. it's banned by many sports and retailers are not allowed to sell ephedrine/ephedra containing produnct. but it's in basically all cold medications as a decongestant!
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 peryus88
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 Sun May 21, 2006 4:46 pm |
Yeah, there is hardly anything wrong with ephedrine, as long it is taken in low to moderate dosage. Just like creatine. Some consider it dangerous...yeah, if you're not hydrated properly, or you ingest the powder directly.
Some people go for the "what's new" craze without taking the time to read up on what they're taking. If they did, along with getting advice from their physician and a licensed fitness trainer, there probably wouldn't be that much problems to begin with in my opinion. One of my friends takes thermogenic pills at least 4x a day, sometimes without having anything in her stomache. I was like WTF...and she thinks that once she stops doing it, she's going to get big.
I like EAS. I was once using the supplements supported by Power 90 system, then used some of TwinLab and MetRx. But I switched off to EAS and the Body-for-Life products.
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 steva11
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 Sun May 21, 2006 4:59 pm |
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EAS was good, but they are expesive and not too innovative anymore. I like biotest and t-mag.com, i usually get protien powder from optimum.
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 peryus88
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 Mon May 22, 2006 12:21 pm |
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Are you talking about the products that they have right now, or like years ago? Because I know that some retail stores still carry some of the old products, eg Myoplex Mass got discontinued and replaced by Myoplex Deluxe. Retail stores and some online vendors overprice EAS's products, but I think that prices in fitrx.com are reasonable. Bio-test, hmm...I'll look into that.
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 BigRUSS
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 Mon May 22, 2006 3:12 pm |
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i think if your are going to "break "a record then you need to dop it in teh same amount of time that the original record is set, it doest cout if it takes you 3 times as long , pluss w/ longer seasons and smaller parks, if i was a pitcher id either walk him or bean him every time he comes to bat
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