See nobody is gonna tell me GSM sucks. It can be done with an efffort and money. It works in every country in Europe so nobody will ever tell me IT CAN'T BE DONE. Now what ATT and T-Mobile are doing with it, that's a diff. story.
But why do it with gsm when they are already replacing gsm with umts, a cdma technology. that doesn't make sense.
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Barciur Posts: 246
Phone Model: Nokia 5300
Service Provider: T-Mobile USA/Plus GSM
Wed Apr 09, 2008 6:35 pm
u're missing something. they are NOT replacing GSM. they are ADDING to it. any operator that operates only on UMTS has a GSM roaming agreement for voice and such.
u're missing something. they are NOT replacing GSM. they are ADDING to it. any operator that operates only on UMTS has a GSM roaming agreement for voice and such.
And your missing something. why build new gsm towers when umts is clearly the future? Sure gsm will be around for a while, but it will be like amps, still in existance, but not expanded on and barely used.
Barciur Posts: 246
Phone Model: Nokia 5300
Service Provider: T-Mobile USA/Plus GSM
Wed Apr 09, 2008 7:48 pm
iowa wrote:
Barciur wrote:
u're missing something. they are NOT replacing GSM. they are ADDING to it. any operator that operates only on UMTS has a GSM roaming agreement for voice and such.
And your missing something. why build new gsm towers when umts is clearly the future? Sure gsm will be around for a while, but it will be like amps, still in existance, but not expanded on and barely used.
i can assure that GSM and CDMA will be around for quite a time still.... as UMTS expansion is hell lotta work.
I'm not certain if I've piped in with this in this thread yet, but covering Poland and covering the US with towers are two totally different tasks. There are very few if any places in Europe that have the amount of empty space that the US has, but coverage still needs to be there because of highways and such. It's a million dollars to put a tower up, and a lot of those western highways are costing companies millions to provide coverage, and they're taking a loss on it, because the population out there does not demand it. Eventually it'll all get done, but this isn't Europe, it's the US, how about we compare the US with Russia for large amounts of populationless empty space, and see how our cell network compares to theirs. It would be a more fair comparison.
I'm not certain if I've piped in with this in this thread yet, but covering Poland and covering the US with towers are two totally different tasks. There are very few if any places in Europe that have the amount of empty space that the US has, but coverage still needs to be there because of highways and such. It's a million dollars to put a tower up, and a lot of those western highways are costing companies millions to provide coverage, and they're taking a loss on it, because the population out there does not demand it. Eventually it'll all get done, but this isn't Europe, it's the US, how about we compare the US with Russia for large amounts of populationless empty space, and see how our cell network compares to theirs. It would be a more fair comparison.
Well said. also europe doesn't have our excellent landline system to depend on, so they are naturally more dependent on mobile phones.
Barciur Posts: 246
Phone Model: Nokia 5300
Service Provider: T-Mobile USA/Plus GSM
Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:25 pm
iowa wrote:
McGirk wrote:
I'm not certain if I've piped in with this in this thread yet, but covering Poland and covering the US with towers are two totally different tasks. There are very few if any places in Europe that have the amount of empty space that the US has, but coverage still needs to be there because of highways and such. It's a million dollars to put a tower up, and a lot of those western highways are costing companies millions to provide coverage, and they're taking a loss on it, because the population out there does not demand it. Eventually it'll all get done, but this isn't Europe, it's the US, how about we compare the US with Russia for large amounts of populationless empty space, and see how our cell network compares to theirs. It would be a more fair comparison.
Well said. also europe doesn't have our excellent landline system to depend on, so they are naturally more dependent on mobile phones.
lol? Europe doesn't have excellent landline system to depend on? ekhm. right.
on a side note, i will stop complaining about US phone systems when I move back to Europe. what a relief will that be huh
Barciur Posts: 246
Phone Model: Nokia 5300
Service Provider: T-Mobile USA/Plus GSM
Thu Apr 10, 2008 5:59 pm
iowa wrote:
It's a proven fact the european land line system is moot.
wrong
iowa wrote:
it's safe to assume your polish, and if you follow the polish stereo type it's easy to understand why your so mal informed.
Well I won't follow the lazy and stupid american stereotype, I will just stop conversation with people that insult me. So yeah have a nice day.
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